Christmas Present
For your Christmas Eve enjoyment, here is my current thinking about enigmatic Rangers prospect Edison Volquez.

What do you guys think? I keep going back and forth on this one between Grade B and Grade B+. The one time I saw him in person, he was terrible. But everyone else raves about him. Sabermetrically, his numbers in the Texas League are better than they look on the surface once context is considered, although as stated their not quite in the elite class. He is also a power/groundball pitcher, which should help his margin of error.
So, is it Grade B or B+? Take the poll in the comments! Note that my grading scale is very tough, and that Grade B+ is a very big compliment coming from me.
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by igreen01 on Dec 24, 2005 5:24 PM EST reply actions
B
The potential is there
B is still a good grade
I thought he was very predictable with his pitching mix at the major league level.
When you've got a Young guy who throws 95 with decent control for his age I can understand MLB guys wanting to see him. I think they put a lot of pressure on him.
My belief is that the good ones make it regardless of what pressure is put on them. If you are going to be a baseball player you eventually need to come to grips with failure.
As a real life Rockies fan, I've always thought we babied our prospects far too much.
I disagreed with John in that I liked Volquez's changeup an awful lot. This isn't the first time a young guy's been hit hard at 21 years of age.
I think he should repeat AA or perhaps pitch in AAA. I wouldn't call him back to the Majors untill he's dominating AA.
I think B is a very good grade. I think he's young enough that you could grade him a B+ on potential and still sleep at night.
by RMF on Dec 24, 2005 6:31 PM EST reply actions
remind you of fellow Ranger Benoit
by gashousegang on Dec 24, 2005 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
how might an upcomer like
mlb batters have seen it all before and a guy with one solid, above average pitch and overall semi-so-so control, meaning they can throw stikes but can't consistently locate, go somewhere below the "get eaten alive" category..
may or may not improve from there upon regular mlb duty.
doesn't seem like an exception...
c+
by dryice on Dec 24, 2005 7:12 PM EST reply actions
grade
he does have very good stuff and I think he has an excellent change up. But like others have said, the kid doesnt have a clue how to harness his stuff yet.
BB/Rate
I would like to see Volquez strike more guys out. However, I think that's going to change in the next 2 years.
If anything, I think Volquez throws too many hittable strikes and I think his sequence is too predictable.
I think the key to his success as pitcher is his slider or breaking ball or whatever he's throwing. I love the fastball, like the change.
He must command the slider. If he can throw all 3 pitches he's going to start striking guys out at a much higher rate. Combine that with the reasonable walk totals and you have yourself a very nice pitcher.
by RMF on Dec 24, 2005 7:53 PM EST reply actions
He's special
I can tell you this: guys who have played with Danks, Diamond and Volquez almost universally rank Volquez as easily best of the three, both in terms of pure stuff and in terms of "makeup" or moxie or cojones, etc. And that is in no way a knock on the other two. There is great respect for them as well, but "Volqy" is the one of the three who has them in awe.
well
Lots of guys have great stats in A ball and high A ball.
We'll see how these guys pan out, i don't see #1 starter from any of these 3 though.
by hotshotschamp on Dec 25, 2005 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
No big argument
While I agree that there probably isn't a #1 (or an A or A- grade prospect) in the DVD group, it's easier to see #1 out of Volquez than the other two at this point. He has far more velocity than the other two. One night, I watched him fire off several 98 mph heaters...in the 8th inning (verified by two guns). His fastball has much more movement than Diamond's and his change is really an overwhelming pitch, more often than not. I've seen dozens of Volquez changeups that sink and run so much that you think they must be splittys. To me, his slider is something along the lines of a 50 pitch at best.
And, as I've stated many times, he's got that charisma and personality that stands out. He seems to be respected and very well liked by his teammates. Maybe that doesn't matter, but if it does, there's no question he's got that going for him.
B
by BERSMR on Dec 24, 2005 11:56 PM EST reply actions
B grade is plenty of respect
I have been reading John's books since 1997 and B grade, tools laden prospects have always drawn my attention.
Everybody here reads Baseball America for further analysis, let the traditional scouting publication tell us about Volquez's ceiling based on his physical attributes.
Sickels has plenty of respect for the traditional scouting side of evaluation, but he's always leaned towards the performance aspect as the bottom line. John's tough grading scale is the reason why I keep purchasing his books. When in doubt, John should go back to his sabermetric roots and tell it like it is.
thanks John
you do terrific work...
and Merry Christmas!
by Azteca on Dec 25, 2005 11:50 PM EST reply actions
B is gernerous
Look up "bad mechanics" in the dictionary and you'll see that picture, wow.
not sure I'd say that

gernerous = generous
that's funny.......
by the pinstripes on Dec 27, 2005 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
CalLeaguers.com Scouting Report
Volquez has a 2004 report on the site as well. Apparently his stuff did make a big leap from '04 to '05.
by natsfan2005 @ Minor League Ball on Dec 27, 2005 5:13 PM EST reply actions

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