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Critique Jim Hendry


Cubs GM Jim Hendry

So, what do you guys think about Jim Hendry?

A few years ago, the Cubs had one of the deepest farm systems in baseball, a system that Hendry was responsible for building. Yet the system has thinned out and they don't seem to have a lot to show for it. What has gone wrong? What has gone right? And would you want Hendry GMing your team?

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Hendry
Before this offseason, I actually didn't have a lot of problems with Hendry's moves.

He (and McPhail) have really built up the farm, and they do still have some depth in it, although not nearly as much as before.  Corey Patterson probably needs a change of scenery, but there are still guys like Pie and Cedeno who are ready to contribute.  

He's generally made good trades - Derrek Lee is an obvious standout, even if Choi might produce one day, and he stole Aramis Ramirez from the Pirates.  And honestly, he wasn't going to get much more for Sammy Sosa.  He got Matt Murton with Nomar, and I actually think Nomar was worth the re-signing risk (although obviously, it didn't work out).  Either way, Murton looks like a good starter in LF.

If I do have a quibble with Hendry's acquisitions, it's that he doesn't really know how to, or least doesn't have a knack for, constructing a bullpen.  He's given up draft picks for Mike Remlinger, LaTroy Hawkins, and now Howry and Eyre.  The contracts aren't cheap, and he's probably better off trading for relief or finding them in house (Ryan Dempster?)

He did overpay for Greg Maddux, but really, Maddux making 9 million is probably not much worse than Kris Benson making 7 million.

by sasquatch83 on Dec 19, 2005 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Hendry
I think for the most part, Hendry has done a very good job.  The system isn't quite as good as what it was, but I also think the system has been slightly over-rated in years past and the current one may be slightly under-rated.

Last year was a bit of a dissappointment.  He failed to address a few needs, but the Sosa contract/trade limited what he could do.  His track record overall for trades is quite nice.  Got DLee, ARam, Barrett for peanuts.  Nomar was pretty cheap, but he got unlucky w/ the injury.  Letting Nomar go this year may be one he regrets.  One thing that is pretty bothersome is that he really hasn't been a big player this offseason and he has probably the most to spend.  Right now they have Cedeno at SS and no clear picture on who the corner OFs will be.  I don't mind Cedeno neccessarily, but I would feel more comfortable with such a young player if they didn't have so many question marks.

"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 19, 2005 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

hmm...
He's only been in the job 1 1/2 years, so he's tough to judge.  (Since July '04, I think)

He did get his first big job at Creighton U., in Omaha; that's gotta count for something.  :)  (I attended the school at the end of his run in the early 90s.)

The way he's dealt with the Cubs bullpen, however, has not been great.  And the media, on that same note, too.

The whole Corey Patterson thing, too, is weird; as a "player development", you might think he'd be more involved.  Nomar was a good signing, though I think Pierre is a bad one.  Juan wasn't a star before he arrived in Florida and, as a guy who depends on his wheels, it'd be no surprise if it faded as fast.  The PT he's allowed Neifi, too, is unfathomable.

by Azteca on Dec 19, 2005 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

so far, so bad
I don't think the Cubs have any plan at all.  Their attitude seems to be that if Prior, Wood, Zambrano and Maddux are all healthy all year, we'll just... magically win.  Either that, or they don't really care if they win or not since every game is a sellout anyway.  Whatever the reason, they have yet to substantially improve the rest of the team.  Neifi Perez and Scott Eyre have to be two of the offseason's saddest signings. Bobby Howry's contract doesn't impress me either.  The franchise probably hasn't had a leadoff hitter since Bob Dernier.  They always have some bangers in the middle of the order, but it never matters because they never get on-base guys to score the runs.  Juan Pierre might help, but then again he might not, and either way they still need more.  Young, talented players like Hee Seop Choi,  Corey Patterson, Jerry Hairston, Ronny Cedeno and Jason Dubois either don't get chances or regress in Cub uniforms.  And Andy Sisco literally got stolen away from the Cubs for nothing.  Dusty Baker has been given way too much rope to hang himself with.  He should not have input into personnel moves, and I personally think he should be gone altogether; signing him seemed like a good idea at the time, so I won't criticize that part, but it turned out not to be, and Hendry needs to recognize that at this point.

Hendry's trading record looks good, actually.  He has made some total steals like Choi for D. Lee, Lofton/B. Hill for A. Ramirez, Alex Gonzalez (dunno which one and don't care) for Nomar & Murton.  I also liked Hawkins for Jerome Williams.  Then again, Dontrelle Willis for Clement was a disaster.

But it ultimately boils down to, in the nation's third largest city with a rabid fanbase, they simply should have a much better team than they do.

and boom goes the dynamite.

by Mean Dean on Dec 19, 2005 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

whoops
That's B. Hill and J. Hernandez for A. Ramirez AND Lofton.
and boom goes the dynamite.

by Mean Dean on Dec 19, 2005 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah a Plan
I really have a tough time figuring out what the plan is. As I can not see one tough to judge.

by novaoakland on Dec 19, 2005 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

good on the trade front....
clever moves on the trade front have helped the roster in recent years.  his main deficiency seems to be on the FA front.  I don't know if he lacks the creativeness of a kenny williams or is limited by the tribune budget but the roster has been left with major holes last year and thus far this year.  Aside from his managerial moves, I think Dusty actually limits JH's moves overall.  I guess I am just not sure what it is that keeps him from being a star as the trade front is usually where a gm's weaknesses are exposed.  Maybe he gives dusty too much say on the players coming and going, just not sure.  

Overall, i would grad him a b-.  I think dusty will be gone after this year and if hendry is retained this next hire will be critical.

by cincod1 on Dec 19, 2005 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Photo
Can I critique that photo of Jim Hendry?  Is that from the Cubs website or something?  They don't have anything better?

Also, as a Giants' fan, I really think we got taken in the Hawkins trade.  So, he's got that going for him.

by ragnarok on Dec 19, 2005 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

is it just me
or do all of the GMs look alike?
We have, I fear, confused power with greatness.

by jrfelix on Dec 19, 2005 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

Hendry not problem
Jim Hendry is not the problem with the Cubs, he is just listening to the manager who is the problem. Baker says he needs a bullpen, he gets a bullpen. He dosen't know how to use one but what the heck. Throw some money at some marginal free agents and Dusty will wear them out.

The Cubs problem last year was that Baker refused to adjust his batting order to get someone on base ahead of Lee and Ramirez. Patterson has never been a leadoff hitter and never will be. Trying to force him into that role has stiffled any growth curve left for him. Perez walked eighteen times last year, and 3 of those were intentional walks!

As Baker said last spring if you can't run once you get on base, walks don't mean anything. How can you argue with that and not break down and cry?  

by rifle24 on Dec 19, 2005 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Baker
Baker's managerial issues are well documented.  Have the Cubs made any indication as to whether they want to renew his contract when it expires next year?

Also, who gave Neifi 3 IBBs?  I hope it was to get to the pitcher . . . . right?  

by sasquatch83 on Dec 19, 2005 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

3 IBBs to get to the pitcher or maybe...
to get to Corey Patterson
http://www.scacchoops.com

by jonpyardi on Dec 19, 2005 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Dusty's comments
"Minorities play better in the heat... I mean that is why we were brought over here, right." spoken by Dusty himself.

That is worth a firing in my book. He may or may not believe in santa clause or that man has been to the moon.

See Dusty live at WWW.arm-bands_at_elbows.com

by Shamus on Dec 20, 2005 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

At first...
You HAD to love Hendry as the Cubs GM. He was the guy who had helped build up the Cubs farm system to one of the tops in the game, he opened his GM career with some very good trades (and not just in retrospect, they were good in one way or another at THAT point in time).

But now he seems like a man without a plan. The farm system is one of the most overrated in the game, we no longer have the high end pitching prospects we used to, we lack any can't-miss prospect (Pie is far from it), we don't have a ton of high upside, toolsy players anymore, and if they are they are very un-skilled baseballwise.

His way of building a bullpen, by giving guys who just had a good year a big deal is simply mentally retarded. Not only does he do this too much, but the guy has to be at least 30 to be signed to this multi-year 10+ million dollar deal. You don't build a bullpen like that, most relievers are boom and bust year to year. Signing a bunch of guys with good stuff, or good numbers and some kind of quirk or you know...something along those lines to minor league deals or small contracts are usually the way to go. Or use guys from the minors. Isn't it shocking that the best relievers for us in the past couple years have been a guy we picked up in an independent league and a minor league arm (Wuertz)?

I also HATE the way he has built the lineup. He seems to have been caught in that trap of going after the big name guy instead of the smart move. He overpaid for Pierre when two MUCH better and much cheaper players (Bradley and Wilkerson) were out there and their teams were almost desperate to get rid of them. He signs crap like Neifi to extensions when guys like D'Angelo Jimenez and who knows who else (as 99.9% of baseball players are better than Neifi) are getting minor league deals.

And worst of all, he's become the bitch of Dusty Baker. Dusty IMO deserves the most blame for the fall of the Cubs, but its been Hendry's choice to keep him around. The coaching staff is hideously bad, Rothchild is one craptastic pitching coach and at this point I don't think its wrong to say that the hitting coaches of the past few years have been worse.

The Cubs have lost the loveable losers thing, now we're just losers. We're a falling franchise whose two glimmers of hopes for the future have been or are currently being ridden like horses before they even hit 25.

Basically Hendry started high, began to fall slowly, and then shot down like a meteor with his past couple of offseasons.

I personally would much rather call up Theo Epstein and tell him to turn this around from the bottom up. I'd much rather have a guy with a solid plan and beliefs that can be explained than Hendry.

by SenorGato88 on Dec 19, 2005 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Spending and inability to develop prospects
Hendry is riding the wave of an excellent 2003 but has failed to produce since then. He has actually been GM since 02 and was the cubs scouting director before then.  

The biggest blemish has been his inability to develop the players from the farm system.  He inherited a solid farm system and it has not produced anything since he has become GM.

1st Round Draft Picks
2003 Ryan Harvey - has not seen above A ball.
2004 Pick lost in compensation for Latroy Hawkins
2005 Mark Pawelek - was the only 1st round pick to play in the rookie instructional leagues.

Went into 2004 with no bullpen and then after it went poorly he and the cubs underwent a campaign to try to defame Sosa to justify trading him(releasing internal security tapes showing him leaving the park during the game).  He did this right before he was about to trade him.  He then traded the most prolific veteran slugger over the previous the previous 6 years for Jerry Hairston Jr and David Crouthers(who retired before joining the Cubs)

2005 looked started again with a suspect bullpen with no real closer and no real lead off man.  A case could be made it was Baker who misused Patterson and Hawkins ruining both.  Patterson who was once considered the best prospect in the minors(think Delmon Young).

For 06 the Cubs have no right fielder a hole at the back end of the starting rotation and now have to test out 2 rookies in LF and SS (Murton and Cedeno) because Baker refused to do it at the end of 05'

The cubs scouting director was hired elsewhere and the cubs minor league system is being cleared out by trades like the one for Pierre.  The last regular the Cubs could be said to have "developed" was Zambrano and Patterson is the only position player to come out of the Cubs system.  

Hendry's problem is he makes shortsighted deals and is not trying to set the Cubs up for long term contention.  He hasn't taken steps to fix the Cubs development of minor league players and he is intent on giving Baker the Nefi Perez and Jose Macias of the league.    

by JonH on Dec 19, 2005 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Couple things.
Harvey was 20 at the start of the year, which is considered very young for AA and most definetely would have been for him.  He was drafted out of HS and was very raw, no one had any illusions of him being in the bigs before 2007/08, it was about his "upside."  He missed some time due to an injury.  He strikes quite a bit.  Between that and his missed time, they would have been stupid to try and advance him quicker.

The 2004 lost pick for Hawkins was a very good deal at the time.  Not even Nostradamus saw his implosion coming.

I blame Sosa for that whole fiasco.  He's a selfish egomaniac and was/is a cancer.  Baltimore would reverse that trade in a NY minute if they could.  Sure the Cubs released the footage... AFTER Sosa denied leaving early during a pouting episode.  Hairston equalled Sosa's value this year.  I don't think you or anyone else would have gotten much more by trading Sosa.  They were stuck with his declining whiney-ass and took what they could get.  With the whole steroids issue this year, wouldn't surprise me if the Cubs front-office was privy to some info we don't have for the shrinking slugger.

The re-signing/acquistion of younger players like ARam/DLee/Wood were not short-sighted. It's not like he's Brian Sabean signing only those over 35.

"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 19, 2005 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Selective freakin' memory
Went into 2004 with no bullpen and then after it went poorly he and the cubs underwent a campaign to try to defame Sosa to justify trading him(releasing internal security tapes showing him leaving the park during the game).  He did this right before he was about to trade him.  He then traded the most prolific veteran slugger over the previous the previous 6 years for Jerry Hairston Jr and David Crouthers (who retired before joining the Cubs)

Wow, what selective memory.  You forgot the part about Sosa's declining skills; his hitting only got worse on the Orioles. Sosa was moved for cause.  The fact that he was even able to find a club willing to take on his bloated contract is a net positive.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by scareduck on Dec 20, 2005 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

2005 Trade deadline
Now, Matt Lawton's use of drugs not withstanding.  The gave up DuBois for what in the end was nothing.  It just seemed like the deals for outfielders were lacking any foresight.  It just seemed like he was at sea without a sail.  The Cubs have a lot of problems Hendry to me neither solves any of them or creates bigger problems.  I had forgot about the time that he pimpslapped the Pirates into giving him Aramis Ramirez.  That is a career highlight.

by Terry Ryan Jr on Dec 19, 2005 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

Big Hendry Failure
One of Hendry's biggest failures has been his infatuation with, and overpayment for, marginal talent. He throws money at guys other teams won't even roster, he trades warm bodies for discards and rejects. Randolph. Bartosh. Macias. Anderson. Oliver. DiFelice. Perez. Ordonez. Jackson. Rusch. Wilson. Veres. Hollandsworth. O'Leary. I have to stop, I'm getting violently ill...

Second, he discards players that have some value, often for nothing. This is not smart roster management. Van Buren. Leicester. Sisco. Three recent examples.

Finally, and most damningly, he seemingly has no concept of the value of OBP, VORP, and the like. How else can you justify paying $6MM to one of the worst hitters in big league history like Neifi Perez? Or trade a warm body for, and roster two straight years for nearly a million bucks per, Jose Macias?

I agree with posters that he reacts, instead of being proactive. He has no real plan, and is not good at roster management. Frankly, I think he needs to go and take his pet manager with him.

I hear Theo Epstein would like a new challenge....

1908-2005 and counting....Ease their pain.

by Stan Hack Lover on Dec 19, 2005 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

If Hendry
does go, I'd love to see what Theo can do here in Chicago.  I think part of his wanting to take a year off is very well calculated.  A lot of appealing jobs could open between now and this time next year.  
"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 19, 2005 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of the value, williams
I am not sure why I keep reading that he is so expendable.  I would like to see his K/BB and K/IP ratios improve but the guy just turned 24 and he is a backend of the roation guy for the cubs.  Any thoughts?

by cincod1 on Dec 21, 2005 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Hendry - ???
Point-by-point (since I have watched about 150 Cubs games the past 3 years and considered myself a Cub fan until the other Cub fans ruined it for me by flooding Bartman with hate mail):

First, I feel a need to defend the rips on Neifi Perez.  This guy is just a fantastic SS, and it's backed up by defensive stats (e.g. he was +17 FAA2 at ss, and 2nd in MLB in ZR in 2005).  $5m/2yr is a bargain, and not a large enough salary to affect winning chances.  I play in strat-o-matic leagues using salaries, and if I had an opportunity to lock up a top-notch (defensive) SS for that sort of price, I'd jump at it.

Second, I couldn't agree more on the high-priced middle reliever signings.  What's that about?!

Third, I really thought the 2005 lineup had a chance to work, if handled well... Garciaparra, Walker, Lee, Burnitz, Ramirez, Patterson, Barrett, Hollandsworth-Dubois is balanced and deep.  Of course, that was just me dreaming.  But I really thought that JH had brought in good pieces.

Fourth, I would have fired Hendry outright the minute he suggested (or agreed with) hiring Dusty Baker to manage a team with wonderful young starting pitching talent.  

Fifth, I've heard him say that he won't pay premium value for a top FA.  Usually, that position makes sense.  But I cannot believe that in this market there aren't some exceptions.  If you're going to lose your first-round pick anyway, why not make sure you get the player you want?

Sixth, I don't know if this applies to his GM ability, but he should probably get some credit for acquiring Wood, Prior, Zambrano?  That appears to be one of the strongest "pure stuff" trios I've seen.  Of course, they're all likely just roadkill on the Dusty Baker Express, but when they were healthy, they were awesome!

Seventh, I did mention that hiring Dusty Baker wasn't one of his highlights, didn't I?

Eighth, I agree with the comment about giving away useful players and getting nothing in return... Sisco in particular was galling to me, as the Cubs could have used him in 2005.  Not that they had a manager who could figure out how to use him, but it was a thought.

Ninth, I've always been a Juan Pierre fan, despite analysts thinking he's not good at all.  That said, I wouldn't really have considered him for the Cubs, even though I've been screaming for a leadoff hitter for that team for 2+ years.  This move seemed very much reactive instead of proactive.  I know that the Cubs fans in Chicago are somewhat optimistic about things now... seeing how the White Sox did after acquiring Scott Podsednik last year.

Tenth, I was probably the last person in Chicago to abandon faith in Latroy Hawkins as a closer.  I really think that all the stuff people say about the 9th inning being so much different from the 8th is a pill of manure.  I really thought Hendry tried the smart thing there... using a guy with great stuff and a history of dominating in a setup role ... to close games.  If this conversion works (which seems like most of the time), you have an ace closer for a reduced price.  

In summary, going into the 2005 season, I was really high on Hendry.  But... Hendry has publicly been very supportive of Dusty.  If he really agrees with Dusty's managerial style, I cannot help but consider that a fatal flaw.  Normally, being in synch with your manager would seem to be one of the most important things for a GM.  But Dusty has shown some clear weaknesses, and Hendry's unwillingness / inability to hold him accountable for those undermines the many good things he's done as GM.

by BobbyMac on Dec 20, 2005 6:03 AM EST reply actions  

Great summary...
I posted earlier that I didn't really know what it was that has caused him to fall so hard and so fast but I think you hit it on the head.  A general manager can put the pieces in place but without the support, buy in, feedback, and developement of the coaching staff and manager it is all for not.  The best Gm's in the gam seem to have a good working relationship with their managers and they operate on the same page.

Dusty was a great hire at the time and for that team.  However, that was a veteran team that was being pushed by a loaded farm system.   After 03 we had a bunch of youngsters ready for the dusty prospect grinder and we all know how that worked out.  

Hendry seems to be caught in the middle.  I believe he would have liked to give some of these kids a shot but how do you do that when your manager does not develop them but instead turns them into head cases.  I still believe Patterson will be a productive player once he escapes Dusty.  I didn't care for the way he reacted to the leadoff role by saying that he has his way off hitting and won't consider anything else.  In retrospect, I don't blame him a bit.  Yes he has speed but did the yanks or rangers try to turn soriano into a bunter/slap hitter no.  Patterson could be a semi-soriano type IMO, 20-30Hr's, 270AVG. lots of K's but with better defense.

I think the frustration that most of us have with Perez and Macias stem from Dusty nudging them into more prominent roles than they deserve.  I agree Perez is a nice player but I don't think he is an everyday SS same with Macias, so why not play the young guys and see what you have.

I would like to see Hendry continue as a GM if and only if Dusty is gone and replaced by someone that can manage a team, maximize and develop the talent they are provided and is open to a variety of scenarios.  

by cincod1 on Dec 20, 2005 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Dusty
Let me first say, I hate Dusty.  But in order to have some legitimacy, I have to cry BS to a lot of the stuff being said about him.  The biggest thing I have a problem with is how everyone says he dislikes younger players.  I agree they aren't his first choice to go in the line-up, but he really is taking some undue heat for this.  He wants to put the players out there that give him the best chance to win.  What players did he not play in SF?  They haven't exactly been a pipeline of young talent.  The Cubs system, while it had been very good/deep in the previous few years, really hasn't been known for a having a lot of position players, it was pitching that was getting the system most of its attention.  Position players near the top of the prospect lists were for the most part either very young in lower levels or weren't very good.  Pie and Harvey are STILL a ways off.  Choi?  Dusty LOVED this guy and he was starting everyday... until he had a collision fielding a pop-up and got hurt.  He wasn't the same when he came back and he ended getting traded for DLee.  I do that trade 11 times out of ten.  Quality, young position players just haven't been there, it's not like he's been refusing to play them this whole time.  I agree Cedeno/Murton should have seen more time than they did at the end of last year, but all the tripe about him not playing young guys has been nothing more than armchair quarterbacking.  How about Carlos Zambrano, Mark Prior, Aramis Ramirez, Corey Patterson?  Those guys have all been played by Dusty regularly since before they turned 25.  If the player can play, he'll play you.  Most of the young talent he has had at his disposal was not worthy of playing.  It's not like the Cubs/Giants have had the likes of McCann, Francoeur, M. Cabrera, Crawford, Blalock etc. coming up throught their farm system.  Sorry, the Dave Kelton's and Jason Dubois's of the world just aren't in this category.

As far as the other stuff with batting Corey leadoff for months and him making pitchers throw until their arms fly off, that's where I jump on the Dusty sucks bandwagon.

"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 20, 2005 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

I'm printing
and saving this.  :-D

Agree with all your points and add, I feel, that Dusty would have a quicker hook with pitchers if he had the bullpen.  He didn't have a long hook in SFO because he had Nen at the end.

One trade which was hendry's best has not been mentioned.  Hundley to the Dodgers for Grudzielanek and Karros.  BRILLIANT move!

My critique with Hendry is his failure to construct a full roster prior to the season beginning.  His roster is always a "best case" possible roster with little or no flexibility or can sustain any injury.  He makes good in-season moves.

This is a big year for him, and for Dusty too.

by So Cal Bob on Dec 20, 2005 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of hendry....
Puuuuuhhhhhlllleeeaaassseeeee no jock jones.  Just imagine, work the magic but don't bring back Burnitz.

by cincod1 on Dec 20, 2005 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's Patterson
in RF to start the year unless he gets traded.  Right now Corey's value is absolute fuckle so hopefully he doesn't move him... at least yet.  The defense will be great in the OF with him there, now we just all need to grab him by the shoulders so we can try and pull that inflated cranium out of his ass.  Let him bat like 2nd or 6th in the line-up and just leave hime there.  No talking to Dusty... just let the dude hack away and hopefully he'll start laying off the high fastball.
"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 20, 2005 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

that's absolutely sad
to say, isn't it?  Jeez.  But I would rather keep Corey in the 8 hole than spending $5MM on Jones.

by So Cal Bob on Dec 20, 2005 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely
it's sad, but it is what it is.
"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 20, 2005 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

oh...lesser of two evils
is corey not just putting a big suckhole in rf, though?  it's nasty to think of jones there, but corey has gotten worse defensively has he has struggled offensively.  a rp who shall remain nameless told me that he was the worst cf in baseball.  speed and youth do not a mlb player make.  it's tough to figure out who they could get in rf, but i just can't take corey out there.  i want him gone, even if he stars somewhere else.

by huckleberry on Dec 20, 2005 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst CF in all of baseball?
C'mon, his name was right in the thick of things for gold glove just a few years ago.  If I was that rp, I'd want to remain nameless as well making statements like that.  Regressed, sure.  Worst CF in baseball?  Nah.
"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 20, 2005 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not buying that
I watch over 140 Cubs games per year via my season tix or on the tube.  He's in the Top 5 in the NL alone, so whoever makes statements like that is not watching the game.  I can say without a doubt he's better than the guy they just traded for--Juan Pierre.

by So Cal Bob on Dec 20, 2005 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm just repeating what i was told...
but it's a moot point now anyway.  jones is inked for 3 years, reportedly 16m.

by huckleberry on Dec 20, 2005 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

ummmm jim....do you feel that nudge from behind
that's cubs fan pushing you over the edge in your most important contract year and sending dusty over with you.....bbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyeeeee

by cincod1 on Dec 21, 2005 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

A Mirage
A few years ago, the Cubs had one of the deepest farm systems in baseball, a system that Hendry was responsible for building.

It's not so much that it's thinned out but that it didn't produce anything of value after Prior & Zambrano came up. All the highly touted farmhands flopped. If they'd become useful major leaguers and now the farm system was bare, no problem. All systems have high and low points, the problem here is they're not helping the Cubs at all. So please, no credit to Hendry for that farm system.

He has traded pretty fantastically though. Ramirez & Lee alone were enough to stake a good reputation on.

by Yankfan on Dec 20, 2005 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

Farm system helping the Cubs
Well let's see...

The farm system has been used to acquire Juan Pierre, Nomar Garciaparra, Matt Murton, Derek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Kenny Lofton, Damian Miller (who became Mike Barrett), David Weathers, Fred McGriff, not to mention plenty of other smaller role players.  Just because they haven't retired in Cub uniforms doesn't mean they didn't build up a valuable farm system.  Seeing as that's all your Yank-mees know how to do, you should know better.  Shame on you.

"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 20, 2005 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

correct
and 3 pretty good years from Clement too.

by So Cal Bob on Dec 21, 2005 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Nail in the coffin to me...
THREE years at over 5 million a year for JACQUE JONES?

Our front office = a joke.

by SenorGato88 on Dec 21, 2005 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Nail in the coffin to me...
THREE years at over 5 million a year for JACQUE JONES?

Our front office = a joke.

by SenorGato88 on Dec 21, 2005 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

however
it's a savings compared to the $7MM they spent on Bur-shitz last year.

Look, 2 of the biggest holes on the Cubs were CF/Leadoff and bullpen.

Both issues addressed with Pierre and Eyre/Howry.

We had 0 production from SS, so Cedeno will be an upgrade as long as he has a pulse and can field a routine grounder.  We have a full-season from Murton in LF who will certainly provide more output than HollyBois of '05.

Granted this isn't as splashy or sexy as getting Wagner, Furcal, and Damon, but the issues were addressed and the Cubs will be better.  How much?  I can't answer that right now.

by So Cal Bob on Dec 22, 2005 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep...
but ya know something... it seems everytime the Cubs are supposed to suck they win, and this is probably the the worst I've felt going into a season.
"Second guessers are guys that could have never gotten it right the first time." - Tommy Lasorda (for guys that have no other defense for their actions.)

by slurve on Dec 21, 2005 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

My Take on Hendry
First -- just stumbled across this website today and have enjoyed reading the posts.

I am a Cubs season ticket holder and watch the vast majority of their games every season.

Hendry's greatest strength is his abiiity to make deals for players entering their peak periods.  His regular deals (documented above) for arbitration eligible players have added All-Star caliber corner infielders (Lee and Ramirez) and a quality starting pitcher (Matt Clement).  Yes, I know the Clement trade cost Willis, but at the time I would have made that deal as it filled two holes (Alfonseca for bullpen help though I thought he was highly overrated at the time) and a starting pitcher.  He also generally keeps these players for the long-term.

Hendry's greatest weakness is his underappreciation of OBP.  The Cubs have failed to get solid top of the order guys for years and their offense flourished during the short time period that Lofton led off in 2003.  The Pierre trade is a key for this team as one of the problems is that the line-up fails to get high pitch counts on opposing starting pitchers.  I keep score at the games and track pitches -- the pitch count disparity between the Cubs and the opponents over the past few years have been alarming.  The Cubs do not work their way into the opponents bullpen.  Jones is another example of this type of player.

Hendry's 40-man roster management could be better the signing of veteran back-ups costs spots that could be used by younger players (Sico and VanBuren).  Sign veterans to minor league deals and let the youngsers compete for roster spots in the Spring before trading them for a PTBNL.

Dusty has not been the manager I had hoped, but I do agree with the poster above that he was a good hire for a veteran team.  I do not like his lack of playing young players (Cendeno should have been playing over Perez and Murton should have gotten more At-Bats last year).  He also has no interest in seeing what a young player can do as call-ups during injuries have often gone without a singe at-bat. This in hindsight has been a bad hire.

Another knack he has is avoiding bad contracts.  The only bad contract currently on the Cubs books (I am talking significant enough to hamper a team) is Kerry Wood's and that is only because of his health problems.  This contract is up after this season.  He has not locked up old players past their prime and does not give in to extra years.  Instead he structures with option years and buyouts which makes it possible to cut ties if necessary.

This off-season I blame as much on the Tribune company as Hendry.  Hendry had dollars to spend with Sosa's contract coming off the books.  However, it was a thin Free Agent market.  The prudent thing to do, after losing out on Furcal, would be to lock up Zambrano long-term and front-load the deal (I know this is NEVER EVER done -- frontloading a deal - but the Tribune company gives him annual budgets that he either spends or doesn't -- they don't let him carryover unspent funds).  Instead - being in the last year of a contract he has to try to win this year -- he can't look towards the long-term.  Three years for Jones -- no problem -- he won't be here in three years and he needs someone to play LF.  Patterson will not produce in Chicago this year and he can't afford the perception that he isn't doing enough.  Locking up Zambrano would give him absolutely no credit -- the majority of fans don't count keeping your own player as activity.  I am expecting that he will make another move this offseason and pray it is not a desperation one.  Why would any GM trying to save their job value prospects or draft picks (like thw ones forfeited for Eyre and Howry)?  I do not think any club should allow their GM to be in their final year -- either lock him up longer or cut ties.  In this case I would have locked him up longer.

Hendry is not baseball's best GM - but I would put him in the upper third.  He is much better than anyone the Cubs have had in recent memory.  His trading abilities more than make up for his other problems.

by bsherlag on Dec 29, 2005 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

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