Crystal Ball: Huston Street

This Crystal Ball assumes that Street avoids any sort of catastrophic injury, and remains an effective closer, with just a few ups and downs, into his early 30s. Some of you more rabid Oakland fans may dislike the fact that this Crystal Ball shows his rookie season being the second-best of his entire career, with only one season (2008) being obviously better, but it would be hard for him to be better than he already is.
Notice what I did with his strikeout rates, a gradual increase through his mid-20s, but then a decline, though at the same time his control improved.
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BUT, I say no way Street is in Oak for 6 years as closer. Billy realizes that closers are so over-valued that I don't think he will want to go very long without the annual firesale of the closer which usually reaps pretty good rewards.
I mean, I could see Street being signed to a contract that would take thim through arbitration, but if he produces at this level for a long time, he will get expensive really really fast.
One other thing is, wouldn't he stick around as a league average reliever, why would he go from closing to out of the game in 2 years at the age of 34?
Thank a lot, keep up the good work!
by aclax2k on Nov 8, 2005 10:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
injuries, or simple ineffectiveness
Come to think of it, the track record of young closers really isn't that good. How many players have been thrust into the closer role at 22 and have stayed in that role well into their 30's? As Tim Kurkjian mentioned in his article on the two RotY winners, the only other pitchers to save 10 games in a season before age 22 are Terry Forster, Byung-Hyun Kim, Kelvim Escobar, Victor Cruz, Lloyd Allen and Bart Johnson, which isn't an incredibly encouraging list. Johnson was never really a closer, and didn't do much after his 10-save season anyway. Forster fell apart despite a very promising start to his career, much in the same way its looking like Kim's will. Cruz and Allen were out of baseball by age 25. Escobar has had a pretty up and down career, and has spent a lot of time as a starter.
Looking at the top 100 save seasons of all time, the only guys under 25 on the list are Rod Beck(saved 48 games in '93 at 24), and two guys from this year, K-Rod and Chad Cordero.
by Ian Miller on Nov 8, 2005 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could it be
by JFP on Nov 8, 2005 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
very over-valued etc...
It says a whole lot about Street when Barry Zito says (paraphrasing) "Huston is great. When he steps on the mound, you just feel confident and calm that he will close it out". SO, in five years, the A's will most likely have a new stadium (somewhere) and a higher payroll, meaning that Beane can keep Huston around for the 9 million a year that he would eventually be. Wolff (A's owner) has already stated that if Beane decides to spend money on the right thing, they would be willing.
by ohad on Nov 8, 2005 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to sound biased
by jc3 on Nov 9, 2005 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wasn't saying he will become Mariano Rivera
by ohad on Nov 9, 2005 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Annual Firesale on Closers
Sept 1999-2001: Jason Isringhausen served as the closer. 2001 was the last year of his contract and his performance from 2000-2001 priced himself out of the A's range.
- Billy Koch - Performed well but was highly flawed. Traded before the 2003 season.
- Keith Foulke aquired in exchange for Bill Koch. Was best closer since Eck. 2003 was a contract year. Took more money to go to Boston.
- King Arthur Rhodes then Dotel. Dotel signed an extension to pitch in 2005.
- Dotel gets hurt, Street era begins.
I want to make a quick point about college closers. I think that there is the perception that college closers are failed starters. That couln't be further from the truth. In recent years college closers have been the best pitchers on their teams. College closers throw virtually every day. Because of the amount of offense in college baseball, it is vital to have a guy at the back of the bullpen to shut things down. Moreover, college closers generally throw more than one inning. Hence, it's no surprise to see guys like Street, Chad Cordero, Joey Devine, etc reach the bigs so quickly. Often times the closer is the most advanced pitcher on the staff.
by Chickwalker on Nov 9, 2005 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty good
by slurve on Nov 8, 2005 10:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Which draft pick did the A's use?
I'm basically wondering if the Street acquisition was a shrewd "trade" of Free Agent X for him, or did they use a high draft pick on a really good reliever.
by doubledribble on Nov 8, 2005 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
supplemental pick
Ouroboros.
by Ian Miller on Nov 8, 2005 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
arghhgh
I'm curious as to why he has only one season of 35+ saves. I wonder if there is any particular reason for that? Though 344 saves gets him into the hall of fame with stats like that.
About pitching till he's 34. I guess it may make more sense since he started closing at such a young age, but you could also say he keeps going and remains effective, because he doesn't rely on his fastball like other closers breaking down at old age (like Troy Percival). Trevor Hoffman has continued to close at a high level even though i think his velocity is a few mph down. So i wouldn't be surprised if he pitched until he was 37 either.
by ohad on Nov 8, 2005 11:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
re:
How do you think Ranger fans feel about a beloved-Longhorn in an Athletics uniform?
by Ian Miller on Nov 8, 2005 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
point taken
by ohad on Nov 8, 2005 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also
Using a changeup doesn't make you any more likely to stick around, anyway.
by Ian Miller on Nov 8, 2005 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hoffman's been a professional pitcher
by ohad on Nov 8, 2005 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mileage in innings
by Ian Miller on Nov 8, 2005 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense
by novaoakland on Nov 8, 2005 12:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But he does in 2008.
by gatling on Nov 8, 2005 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's too early to tell
by ohad on Nov 8, 2005 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point but,
by gatling on Nov 8, 2005 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lansford and Mazzaro
Some of this becomes moot if Windsor, Braden, Rheinecker, and Meyer prove worthy of spots in the rotation. Hopefully two of those four pan out, and we don't have to rely soley on the three HS arms we drafted this year.
by gatling on Nov 8, 2005 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Pitching Predictions
by Chickwalker on Nov 9, 2005 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing
by ohad on Nov 8, 2005 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with the ERA's
The ERA might never be that low again, but until this year Mariano Rivera never had an ERA as low as Streets, so that shouldn't be too contravercial.
I believe he will get more saves in Oakland than is projected. The A's closers have historically gotten a ton of saves and annually been Rolaids Relief Man contenders.
The worst part of the crystal ball is that he stays in our division almost his entire career. I don't want the A's facing him the rest of his career. Send him to the Mets where high paid star players disappear into obscurity or irrelevance.
by LizardKing51 on Nov 8, 2005 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Another thing I am interested in
by LizardKing51 on Nov 8, 2005 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs











