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Detroit Tigers Top 20 Pre-Season Prospects in Review


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Detroit Tigers Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review

1) Justin Verlander, RHP
    His command still needs some work and he was rushed to the majors, but he was overpowering in the minors, going 11-2, 1.29 (1.29!) in 20 starts, with a 136/26 K/BB in 119 innings. If he stays healthy, he should be ready by July, perhaps sooner. Outstanding Grade A bluechip prospect.

2) Curtis Granderson, OF
    Hit .272/.314/.494 in 47 games for the Tigers. This is a fair approximation of what he can do, although I think his OBP will end up 20-30 points higher than that. His speed production should increase as well. A solid player.

3) Tony Giarratano, SS
    Hit .266/.334/.373 in 89 games for Double-A Erie. He is capable of better, although at this point it is still unclear if he will hit enough to be a regular at the major league level.

4) Kyle Sleeth, RHP
    Tommy John surgery. Missed the season.

5) Joel Zumaya, RHP
    Excellent season in Double-A and Triple-A, 9-5, 2.72 ERA, 199 strikeouts in 151 innings. His control still needs considerable work, but in terms of physical ceiling he is right there with Verlander.

6) Jeff Frazier, OF
    Hit .287/.349/.453 with 45 doubles, 12 homers for Class A West Michigan. A good year. The large number of doubles may indicate more power to come.

7) Ryan Raburn, 2B
    Hit .253/.323/.437 with 19 homers for Triple-A Toledo. Not a bad season per se, but his overall skills may be just a bit short. Better plate discipline could help, and he still needs to work on his defense.

8) Chris Shelton, 1B
    Hit .299/.360/.510 with 18 homers in 107 games for the Tigers. This is not a fluke.

9) Juan Tejeda, 1B
     Hit .291/.354/.447 in 122 games for Double-A Erie. He hit a little better than this at the same level in 2004. He can hit some, but is blocked by other players.

10) Lucas French, LHP
      Combined for 12 starts between the Gulf Coast League, Class A West Michigan, and Class A Lakeland, going 5-3, 5.45 with a 50/23 K/BB in 68 innings. Nothing very attractive here stat-wise, but only 20 years old.

11) Eric Beattie, RHP
      Completely fell apart, losing all command, walking 30 guys in 11 innings in rookie ball.

12) Andrew Kown, RHP
     8-11, 4.36 in 26 starts for West Michigan, 98/52 K/BB in 151 innings. Nothing particularly stands out here, ratios are below average. According to scouting reports and personal observation, he should be capable of better than this, but the ratios don't lie.

13) Humberto Sanchez, RHP
      5.57 ERA in 65 innings for Erie, 65/27 K/BB, 72 hits allowed. Too many hits for a guy who can throw in the mid-90s. Went on the DL with muscle spasms, but pitched well in the Arizona Fall League.

14) Brent Clevlen, OF
      Hit .302/.387/.484 with 28 doubles, 18 homers, 14 steals for Lakeland. Excellent rebound season after poor '04 campaign. His status as a good prospect is restored.

15) Eulogio de la Cruz, RHP
     Good year as swingman for Lakeland, 3.39 ERA, 97/36 K/BB in 96 innings, started 10 games, relieved 30, saved five. An underrated prospect who should get more attention.

16) Collin Mahoney, RHP
      Great arm, but a pure thrower, has no idea how to pitch. 5.24 ERA in 22 innings for West Michigan, with 23/21 K/BB. Was even less effective after demotion to short-season Oneonta, with 7.82 ERA and 26/26 K/BB in 25 innings.

17) Josh Kauten, RHP
      8-5, 3.16 ERA combined between West Michigan and Lakeland. 67/29 K/BB in 117 innings. Strikeout rate is low, but he generates a lot of ground balls and might be able to get away with that.

18) Kenny Baugh, RHP
     12-8, 3.38 in 28 starts for Toledo, 107/60 K/BB in 165 innings. Surviving on guile and intelligence now, his arm having clearly been slagged at Rice. Component ratios are not strong but he might surprise us.

19) Matt Vasquez, RHP
     6-9, 4.89 ERA combined between Lakeland and Erie, 84/21 K/BB in 131 innings. Excellent control, but is too hittable (145 hits) and doesn't strike people out.

20) Dallas Trahern, RHP
      7-11, 3.58 in 26 starts for West Michigan. 66/50 K/BB in 156 innings is unattractive, however. He throws strikes but the K/IP worries me.

This system is improving gradually. Like most teams, the '06 list will look different. I am glad to see a personal favorite like Brent Clevlen rebound, and of course any organization featuring arms like Verlander and Zumaya should be pleased.

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Verlander
Did the Tigers rework his delivery or something?  When he was drafted, there seemed to be a lot of concern with his violent delivery and shaky control.  His walk-rates last year, however, were spectacular.  1.97 BB/9IP, 5.23 K/BB, to go along with a 10.31 K/9IP and 0.90 WHIP.  He was simply unhittable in 7 starts at Double-A(0.28 ERA, 0.55 WHIP).

A pretty much flawless pro debut.  No signs of rust from not pitching for over 8 months, and the numbers indicate great stuff as well as great command.  What happened?

by Ian Miller on Nov 25, 2005 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

could be
that pitching to wood rather than aluminum helped change his psyche and plan of attack.  Typical college guys work "away, away, and then further away."  He seemed to always have the "hammer" curve, but was wild with the fastball.  He seems to have garnered control of his plus plus fastball.

He's as exciting a prospect as there is.

by So Cal Bob on Nov 25, 2005 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

major league starts
I watched both of his major league starts this season.  His velocity was staggering, he worked in the mid to upper 90s, I don't think he threw a fastball slower than 95.  Problem was they were all up in the zone and the hitters he was facing adjusted.   The release point on his changeup was amiss as well, and since he was constantly behind in the count he couldn't work in the deuce much.  I'm sure this was just a case of butterflies.  If he can keep his BB/9 at around 2 in the big leagues like he has so far in the minors, watch out.  I still don't understand how he trimmed close to 2 walks per nine off his average at ODU.  I'd like to think it was the Tigers coaching staff, but who knows?

As far as the rush job, the only reason he was called up was to make a couple rainout doubleheader starts, so it was clear the Tigers weren't trying to work him into the rotation to stay in 2005.  Zumaya was a level higher at the time, but calling him up would have burned an option and started his arbitration clock.  Verlander is signed to a ML contract, so it was really the better play.

by tbac on Nov 25, 2005 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Zumaya/Granderson
When do you expect to see Zumaya get a shot at the rotation?

Is Granderson DET's long term answer at CF and what kind of power #'s do you think he can put up in DET? Also will his average sit around 275 or could it raise closer to 285-295?

.285/.350/.500 sound close? or too optimistic?

by spectstud06 on Nov 26, 2005 2:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Grandy/Zoomer
I expect Zumaya will be pitching in Detroit by the All-Star break this season.  I definitely believe Granderson will be our CF from 2006 on.  I expect 2005 Grady Sizemore numbers out of Curtis in 2006.  20 HR/20 SB and .275/.330/.480 at least.

by tbac on Nov 26, 2005 4:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grandy/Kid K
Sweet thanks.

by spectstud06 on Nov 26, 2005 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Granderson
I agree with tbac's predictions on Granderson and Zumaya.  I'm kind of biased in favor of Granderson though.  I always felt he was an underrated prospect and I'll be pulling for him.  For anyone who hasn't seen him play, he's a fun player to watch with more speed than he's been given credit for.  He's also got surprising power for a skinny guy.

by tiger337 on Nov 27, 2005 12:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Granderson
Granderson's power really shocked me when he came up. He hit some serious bombs to parts of Comerica Park that aren't often touched by anyone, including to right center (VERY impressive for a lefty bat). His defense, on the other hand, seemed a lot less refined than advertised. Mediocre jumps, poor going back on the ball, and some poor decisions in general. Arm's nothing special either. But it's probably the toughest centerfield in the majors and he's young, so he deserves some slack.

Another observation: Really inefficient stride. He could probably be faster if he worked with a track coach on getting all his muscles moving on the same plane. As is, he's flailing all over the place.

Long story short: I think he'll play center in Detroit for a few years, perhaps add muscle and move to left. I wouldn't have thought his bat could handle it until seeing the surprising pop in his bat in '05.

Zumaya? He could get a shot towards mid '05 if some of the guys ahead of him flame out. Otherwise, if he continues to dominate in the minors, I'd expect him in the rotation to start '06.

by gyros on Nov 27, 2005 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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