Worst Farm System Poll





Who Has The Worst Farm System In Baseball?
The Candidates:
Baltimore Orioles
Cincinnati Reds
New York Yankees
Pittsburgh Pirates
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
St. Louis Cardinals
Washington Nationals
Take the poll in the comments thread.
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Orioles?
Worst farm system finalists are the Yanks, Reds, Pads, and Nats. I'd give it to the Reds.
by dkdc on Nov 22, 2005 10:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Name one?
by rockies73 on Nov 22, 2005 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nats are bad, but Phillies just as bad IMO
by natsfan2005 on Nov 22, 2005 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
trade
by John Sickels on Nov 22, 2005 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but...
I just think that they O's farm system has been stuck with a reputation as one of the worst for a few years longer than they have deserved (they certainly DID deserve that reputation a few years ago).
by dkdc on Nov 22, 2005 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you nuts?
BTW: The Phills are really the worst system, when Cole Hamels is your top prospect, you're in trouble, but the Nats are pretty bad as well. As much as I can't stand the Yanks, they are probably in the 20ish range, not very good, but not the worst either
by jspearlj1 on Nov 22, 2005 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Top systems in no particular order
Dodges
D-backs
Braves
D-Rays
Brewers
Indians
Twins
A's
Chi Sox
I think Boston are probably are close to systems like the Rockies, Marlins, Rangers, and Mariners. Not top ten material. They have some depth and some quality talent but not much of either.
by riktermiller on Nov 22, 2005 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst Farm System
I also have no idea what they are going to do about a long-term solution to their ballpark problem. If they can move the fence back, or raise it up a few feet, that might help. If not, they will struggle like the Rockies for the next twenty years.
by GMIL on Nov 22, 2005 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pirates?
I'm curious, though, for the perspective of anybody with a bit more detachment.
by WTM on Nov 22, 2005 11:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As a fellow pirates fan
They have almost zero position player prospects worth mentioning and have made some puzzling draft choices.
On the plus side they have very good pitching coming up soon. Perez, Duke & Malholm are all good lefties. I see Duke struggling a bit next year when teams start making adjustments but I think Perez will be better next year so it should even that out. Burnett is a big question mark but he was promising before the injury.
Kinda up in the air about the righties. Bullington might be better in relief when he comes back from injury. Van Bensnotchen & Snell look to be at least average/back of the rotation starters. I would like to see Snell as a swingman ala Glendon Rusch but he pitches better as a starter.
The Pirates also have catching depth. Doumit looked good as a rookie. Neil Walker looks good but didn't they have him working at 3rd base recently?
Having Walker at third would fill one HUGE hole in the organization because I don't see anyone in the minors being even average at third and that is a hard position to fill through free agency.
Hopefully they stick Eldred at first full time. Yeah he strikes out but he has some power.
As long as they keep drafting the best player available I think they will be o.k.
Making some shrewd waiver/6 yr. free agent pickups would also help with the depth.
I can totally see the Pirates start to rise toward .500 next year and with Jim Tracey and some more payroll maybe having a shot at the NL wildcard in 07!
by colinadam on Nov 22, 2005 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reds??
by Doc Scott on Nov 22, 2005 11:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i don't know about
by lboros on Nov 22, 2005 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cincinnati
by ufo on Nov 22, 2005 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sucks?
by Tyler on Nov 22, 2005 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea he;s ok
by ufo on Nov 22, 2005 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what????
by the pinstripes on Nov 22, 2005 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hamels
by riktermiller on Nov 22, 2005 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
retort
by the pinstripes on Nov 22, 2005 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Joke
by jhelfgott on Nov 22, 2005 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd Make Some Snide Remark
by ESiegrist on Nov 22, 2005 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
worst system
by the pinstripes on Nov 22, 2005 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Reds are bad, but the Nats are the worst
I might be one of the few people in North America that actually likes Waterworld...like jhelfgott says about Ishtar - get past the big budget and you have an interesting concept story with a great (as usual) performance by Dennis Hopper.
by BigRedMachine on Nov 22, 2005 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll second that.
by abbreviatedman on Nov 22, 2005 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Feh
by drjayphd on Nov 22, 2005 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nats
I wonder what a farm system is worth when it comes to buying a major league team? Has anyone ever looked into that?
by Terry Ryan Jr on Nov 22, 2005 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tigers
Brian
http://www.tigerblog.net
by Brian B on Nov 22, 2005 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the Tigers direction
In my opinion, that's a better top 3 than most, and certainly better than the teams in the poll.
by Mr Met on Nov 22, 2005 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nats
Zimmerman is excellent, but there's just NOTHING else there. Is there anyone who projects as a regular? Casto's emergence is more than balanced by Hinckley's collapse. I just don't see anything in that system other than guys who will be lucky to have careers as reserves or marginal middle relievers.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Nov 22, 2005 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have
by MikeE on Nov 22, 2005 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clint Everts
by ufo on Nov 23, 2005 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gigli
by CrimsonLiederhosen on Nov 22, 2005 6:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What about KC???
by huuuubaah on Nov 22, 2005 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can't possibly scew it up!
by abbreviatedman on Nov 22, 2005 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are so money and you don't even know it!
The Padre #1 picks 1995-2004.
Pathetic.
"too high..too high..."
"who gives a s*&%, its outta here."
by themikemancometh on Nov 23, 2005 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huber?
by MetfanBren on Nov 22, 2005 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Defending the Phillies
They all graduated in the last two years.
So, yes, the Phillies' system is thin at the moment. But how critical can you be? It isn't like the system isn't producing.
Also, Cole Hamels and Gavin Floyd had lousy seasons, but how many teams would still love to have them?
Hamels' minor league stats: 28 GS, 152 IP, 88H, 208K, 62BB, 1.54 ERA. and he'll be 22 next season in AA (3 starts there in '05).
Floyd is less thrilling and had major control issues this year. But this was the first bad season, it came at AAA, and he'll still only be 23 next season.
So the system just produced a ton of talent and has two premium pitching prospects. "The worst"? No.
by Arthur on Nov 22, 2005 6:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think
by riktermiller on Nov 22, 2005 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Potential
by amol on Nov 22, 2005 6:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
by PooNani on Nov 22, 2005 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
understandable
by amol on Nov 23, 2005 6:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
by PooNani on Nov 23, 2005 7:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants?
They tied with Detroit for the best overall organizational W-L record in 2005. Except for Fresno, their worst team, they didn't us a lot of career minor leaguers either.
They ranked 12'th in number of players who made one of BA's League Top 15 lists.
They have Matt Cain, still a prospect, who has to be at least a top 10 pitching prospect in all of baseball if not top 5. He's poised to start 2006 in the Giants rotation.
They had 5 teenagers make BA League Top 15 lists including Marcus Sanders, Pablo Sandoval, Waldis Joaquin, Sharon Martis and Sharlon Shoop. So they aren't just a bunch of college draftees and old-for-league types either.
3 of their teams, Augusta, Salem-Keizer and the AZL Giants led their leagues inTeam OBP so they aren't just a bunch of hackers.
While they don't have any top shelf position prospects, they have a lot of depth with a long list of grade B's. At least some of those figure to help the big club in the near future.
I'd really like to know what John was thinking in including them on the list and I'd like someone who voted for them to defend why they voted that way.
by DrBGiantsfan on Nov 23, 2005 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
but they give up...
by kenshin1 on Nov 23, 2005 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dumping Picks
Dick Tidrow has done an excellent job of scouting, drafting and signing hidden gems in the late rounds and even as undrafted FA's. Heck, Jeremy Accardo who contributed last year and could be a big part of the 2006 bullpen was an undrafted FA. The other encouraging thing is that their scouting outside of the U.S. seems to be picking up some steam. They had several excellent non-USA players in Short Season ball in 2005.
The Giants have a top 10 pick plus 2 compensation picks from losing Scott Eyre. Combine that with the expected development of kids like Griffin, Copeland, Sanders, Sandoval, Joaquin, Martis, Shoop and possibly Ariel Nunez, and they could be a whole heckuva lot stronger by this time next year.
by DrBGiantsfan on Nov 23, 2005 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I might actually cry...
by kenshin1 on Nov 23, 2005 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dr B Giants Fan
by sdbaseballfan on Nov 23, 2005 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eddy M-E
I'm not ready to give up on Eddy yet. His arm could get stronger as he recovers further from surgery. He could suddenly get enthusiastic about conditioning. He could learn better routes to the ball in the OF. He could move to 1B. His D certainly is a problem though.
by DrBGiantsfan on Nov 23, 2005 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After the Delgado trade...
by PooNani on Nov 23, 2005 10:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
at this point....
by DavidWrightismyGod on Nov 23, 2005 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mets have spent big money on Latin amateurs
by sdbaseballfan on Nov 23, 2005 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yanks farm
by albo4lyfe on Nov 26, 2005 7:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs









